1: たこやきφ ★ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:43:27.17 ID:???僕の認知では、支倉君は第三者ではありません。
もう、何通も何通も問い合わせのメールをいただいているので、面倒くさくなりました。
あと、支倉君の「釈明」を読んで、現実との乖離に愕然としました。
どこまで人は、卑怯になれるんだ、と。
https://twitter.com/tsumugu_h
【杉井中傷騒動】ラノベ作家・支倉凍砂さん「私は橋本紡氏に対して、ネット上で誹謗中傷およびその扇動をしたことはありません」
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2: たこやきφ ★ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:44:25.75 ID:???
間違えました。このスレは沈めてください。
4: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:47:10.47 ID:+xE34KIR
>>2
(´・ω・`)
(´・ω・`)
3: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:45:33.77 ID:RFjxnwnK
んなこと言っても状況証拠だけじゃ水掛け論やし
5: たこやきφ ★ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:47:36.28 ID:???
やっとソースの確認取れました。
https://twitter.com/tsumugu_h/status/377529606137327617
https://twitter.com/tsumugu_h/status/377529606137327617
6: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:47:56.38 ID:kNxhLROt
事実がどうかは永遠にわからんだろうけど、
世論的に、印象論的に支倉は黒って認定されるんかな。
しかし、法律論的には、告発側が立証責任を果たさないと白と認定すべきなんだけどな。
世論的に、印象論的に支倉は黒って認定されるんかな。
しかし、法律論的には、告発側が立証責任を果たさないと白と認定すべきなんだけどな。
26: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:08:25.26 ID:GywOakf8
>>6
それは認めなかった場合
それは認めなかった場合
35: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:17:43.19 ID:84N3M8rq
>>6
事実関係認めてるから自白成立で黒だよ。
事実関係認めてるから自白成立で黒だよ。
7: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:48:07.48 ID:oViLwhLy
まあ、釈明文は思い入れのないオッサンから見ても酷かった
8: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:49:12.30 ID:Ro9FLz/u
9: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:51:42.90 ID:Q+t1aMHG
どういうこと?
支倉も杉井並みに黒いってこと?工作しているってこと?
支倉も杉井並みに黒いってこと?工作しているってこと?
10: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:52:41.98 ID:Iy1TVT9A
経緯見ようかと橋本ツイッター見たらつぶやきが多すぎてw
11: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:53:35.09 ID:977PorW2
橋本自体が人格に問題ありまくるしどうでもいいわ
21: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:04:51.17 ID:MHTY7y/K
12: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:54:30.09 ID:84N3M8rq
わろた
13: たこやきφ ★ : 2013/09/11(水) 21:56:12.76 ID:???
橋本紡さんは今日になってなんか堰を切ったように一気に溜め込んでいたものを吐き出したみたいです。
あまりに多量のツイートなので、問題になりそうな一部だけ追記します。
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もちろん、僕のこうした言葉は、嫌がられるでしょう。業界の秩序を乱しているから。
ただ、だからこそ、問いたい「橋本の連載をとめなきゃ、わたしはそちらでは書かない」という発言は、
闇に葬るべきですか。現実に目をつむり、美しい世界を見たいですか。
https://twitter.com/tsumugu_h/status/377536508418220032
あまりに多量のツイートなので、問題になりそうな一部だけ追記します。
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もちろん、僕のこうした言葉は、嫌がられるでしょう。業界の秩序を乱しているから。
ただ、だからこそ、問いたい「橋本の連載をとめなきゃ、わたしはそちらでは書かない」という発言は、
闇に葬るべきですか。現実に目をつむり、美しい世界を見たいですか。
https://twitter.com/tsumugu_h/status/377536508418220032
14: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:00:04.38 ID:kNxhLROt
>>13
嫌な奴が連載してるから、そちらと仕事したくないってのは普通に作家の自由だと思うけどな。
というか、それをわざわざ橋本の耳に入れた奴は、橋本だったら馬鹿みたいにどっかで言い出すって思ったんだろうな
嫌な奴が連載してるから、そちらと仕事したくないってのは普通に作家の自由だと思うけどな。
というか、それをわざわざ橋本の耳に入れた奴は、橋本だったら馬鹿みたいにどっかで言い出すって思ったんだろうな
15: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:01:11.60 ID:hO/RfBO8
はっきりしているのは、『狼と香辛料』も『神様のメモ帳』も、
文倉十や岸田メルといった絵師達の力が無ければ売れなかったということ。
これは1000%確実。
文倉十や岸田メルといった絵師達の力が無ければ売れなかったということ。
これは1000%確実。
16: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:01:12.73 ID:Ro9FLz/u
17: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:01:36.23 ID:rYbJEZ67
許されなかったのか。
18: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:03:27.31 ID:mCNwsXTe
登場人物全員性格悪そう
その中でもダントツで橋本が
その中でもダントツで橋本が
27: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:10:25.79 ID:lJaIkT/O
>>18
支倉さんチーッス
支倉さんチーッス
19: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:03:58.72 ID:oViLwhLy
圧力を掛ける自由よりつぶやく自由のほうが許容度が低いのか
20: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:04:12.62 ID:GKoMX5eg
卑怯者と被害妄想者どうし一生憎みあって叩きあえばいいと思います
22: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:05:02.13 ID:QNaENmSr
これから挿絵も作者本人が描けよ
37: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:22:24.42 ID:KLf8ayDP
>>22
折原みと
折原みと
23: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:05:09.42 ID:6hsFD4fF
支倉凍砂には呆れた
二度と作品買わない
二度と作品買わない
24: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:07:07.45 ID:gm6+gx99
まだやんのかこいつら
25: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:07:24.50 ID:NMATYN6k
狼と少年
28: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:10:52.24 ID:H9tras4d
おんなじ泥舟で水かけ合ってるようにように見えます
29: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:11:52.65 ID:oteNnTIp
まぁこれ見る限りでは
支倉がやることやってたにしても
橋本にもやることやられるだけの原因があった、ってことだな
支倉がやることやってたにしても
橋本にもやることやられるだけの原因があった、ってことだな
30: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:14:18.90 ID:InLMqbnv
この騒動をネタにラノベ書いたら売れるんじゃね?
31: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:14:54.44 ID:GywOakf8
正直、ここまで来たら関係者は全てを明らかにして欲しいものだが。
橋本氏にも知る限りの事を言って欲しい、そう言いたい。
どういった内容だったのか、明確な根拠はあるのか、そして、これで終わりなのか、とかね。
橋本氏にも知る限りの事を言って欲しい、そう言いたい。
どういった内容だったのか、明確な根拠はあるのか、そして、これで終わりなのか、とかね。
32: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:15:11.46 ID:GKoMX5eg
人格破綻者には卑怯者がお似合いですね
33: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:15:27.57 ID:Idvc4jkM
輸入盤アニメって日アマでも買えるんだな。
クソ安い。これもう日本の円盤無理だろ。
http://nanpinking.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2013/08/amazon-dc9c.html
クソ安い。これもう日本の円盤無理だろ。
http://nanpinking.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2013/08/amazon-dc9c.html
34: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:16:12.48 ID:iCgtA0hp
ひっでーな
36: なまえないよぉ~ : 2013/09/11(水) 22:19:29.37 ID:ovKXUQXu
産経が取材にきたのを大事にしないよう止めてたっぽいけど
これで解禁して全国紙で記事になるかな
これで解禁して全国紙で記事になるかな
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